couple of the people they consider to come in are ron mcclain, someone not the inside of president obama's ener circle, someone who had worked at the white house for joe biden in the early part of the administration. already people are talking about the possibility that he will come back for the second half of the second term. i think jim vander high is right. a massive shakeup, the president is not going to do that. if he did, it would be a massive merge you are from all precedents. >> john, some presidents, some political candidates have the ability to do this. >> now it's ari. >> this is really bad timing. >> put him on speaker. let's see what he says. get the second delay ready. >> do you realize it's 4:00 a.m. in l.a.? >> it's 4:00 a.m. in laechlt. your brother is here, by the way, he says you just don't call. you don't write. okay. your brother loves you. all right, we're hanging up now. talk to you soon. mika will call you. boy. >> he was very ensulled that you said that he doesn't call you and you know what, he should be because he calls you all the time. >> no. no. >> he calls you